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>> production assistance for "inside washington" was provided by allbritton communications and "politico." >> this week on "inside washington," the massacre at fort hood. were there warning signs about the alleged shooter?
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>> the republican renaissance has begun. >> two biggest it wins for republican congressional victories for democrats. as unemployment hits double digits, what are voters telling us? >> where are the jobs? >> kill the bill! >> of the opposition tea party on capitol hill. >> are they going to listen? oh, yeah up. oh, yeah, they are going to listen. captioned by the national captioning institute >> a u.s. army psychiatrist trained to treat soldiers suffering from stress, himself a ploy to awards on, others to open fire on fellow soldiers --
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self deployed to a war zone, on thursday opened fire on color shoulder -- on fellow soldiers. was the army aware that he was a danger to other soldiers? >> he apparently became disgruntled by the mission in iraq and afghanistan and boys that to his colleagues. >> at least six months ago, the doll house, came to the attention of law enforcement -- nidal hasan can to the attention of law enforcement because of internet postings. his aunt told "the washington post" that he had complained about being harassed for his muslim faith for years and tried to get out of the army. he was reportedly upset about his upcoming deployments to iraq and about the american military presence in iraq and afghanistan. federal authorities have not
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ruled out the possibility that he was acting on behalf of some radical group. evan, what more can we say? >> i cringe that he is a muslim. that in flames all the fears. he is probably and that is, but with that label attached to him, the book of the -- that will get the right wing riled up. >> colby, is there danger of overreaction? >> not yet. the army has some explaining to do. this individual, based on what we know, had a record of being disgruntled, and what did they do when they knew about it. to have a medical professional, a psychiatrist, going into a facility and killing people like that raises the question of why the hell was he there. why did they keep him there with the record? the army has a lot of explaining to do. >> nina?
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>> we will talk about this more in a minute, but psychiatric services in the military has been plagued with difficulties. did not have enough well qualified people. the way they treat people has been problematic, because there are questions about confidentiality. this is just an extension of that. i am sure we will find that the people made mistakes. but nothing is perfect in this life. it really is tragic that he was a muslim. >> mark? >> i don't have answers to your questions. it is a very grave reminder that for hood, texas, home of 65,000 americans, families, as well as soldiers,, the first cavalry and large parts of the fourth infantry division, that all the sacrifices and burden is being borne by this < 1/2 of 1% of
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americans in uniform. the multiple tours of duty, some up to four or five times going, does contradicted the posttraumatic stress disorder -- does contribute to the posttraumatic stress disorder and the incredible pain that these people -- of the sec fries the people are making. -- of the sacrifice that these people are making. it is a reminder to the best of us that one of the war is an obstruction -- -- an abstraction -- >> suicides are going up but it is still below the national average. the military as low rates of suicide than the national average, so we have to be careful not to get too excited. >> hindsight is always a difficult thing to -- on npr reported on friday that this guy had given a lecture about what muslims might think, and
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transgressed almost over the line into being a proselytizing -- saying you should cut off the head -- it so alarmed other muslims in his audience that they were only half-joking by saying, open for a better if he will go postal and start shooting people -- "i wonder if he will go postal and start shooting people." >> was it ignored because of the people in this field -- >> it was limited to this individual -- the things he said two others -- why weren't those incidents invest it? maybe they were and we do not know what happened. it is important to limit this to those who were directly involved, and not to generalize beyond that based on his name. to anybody who is a muslim. >> by the way, the last guy you
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would think would go postal would be an army physician. >> i am married to a doctor. there are crazy doctors, too. >> not the one you are married to. but you make of -- what do you make of the non-election in afghanistan? abdulla barlett drop out, believing that this would be as corrupt as the old one. -- and abdullah abdullah dropped out, believing that this runoff would be as corrupt as the old one. >> barack obama has a problem. >> that is an understatement. >> he has an afghan government that is an on were the partner. -- unworthy partner. cricket, corrupt, involved in that -- corporate, corrupt, involved in the -- crooked, corrupt, involved in the heroin
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business. yes to make a decision about what general mcchrystal has recommended. all indications are that we will see something along the lines of mcchrystal lite. >> it reminds me of 1972 in south vietnam when the president ran for reelection and the was no one to run against him. he is the one, the only one. >> prime minister gordon brown made clear that the british troops -- >> a single military officer -- sound familiar? >> certain tests have to be met and probably cannot be met by this afghan government -- corruption and openness and reform. i think it is a way of great
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britain leaving afghanistan. >> gordon brown said this weekend that he is not leaving, that they cannot end their commitment there and walk away. >> election 2009. >> it is very clear that the voters of the common will have rejected the economic policies coming out of the obama white house and the pelosi-reid congress. >> it would be helpful if the people who created the best in the first place would help us push. >> that is eric cantor and david axelrod. republicans want virginia and new jersey despite the president's last-minute campaigning. as the president lost his magic touch? or does the economy, every other issue on the board? what are voters telling us? >> voters are telling us in 2000
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and what they told us in 2006 and to us -- in 2009 anwhat it told us in 2006 and 2008. they want the in's out and beat out's in. -- the outs in. there is disgust with washington and the way things are done, and a companion hostility, equal intensity towards wall street. they don't see any change. they voted for change three times in a row and they have not seen any change. they see the same old same old still operating here. i don't think there's any question that it is a warning signal for 2010 for incumbents. >> charles krauthammer, who usually sits were use it, says that there were no obama coattails and we are misreading the 2008 -- miss reading the
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results of the 2008 election, and this is the fundamental cause of the debacle of 2009. >> i would point out to charles that there are 5 million more voters in 2008 than there were in 2004, and those were 2 million more hispanic voters, 2 million more african-american voters, 800,000 more asian voters. the biggest increase statistically in the entire electorate was among voters the aged 18 to 24. they are not going away, charles. >> he is not even hear! >> let me just hold this -- charles is not here, will be back next week, but he is on the cover of "national review." isn't that beautiful portrait? "calls krauthammer, america's most important opinion journalist for 25 years, but since a january 2009 this popularity has been a senate
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because he's a brilliant critic of president obama." -- has been a senate because he is an early critic of president obama." >> mark, sitting in charles's place, is right about this. in the virginia race, a 51% of the vote in virginia, the actual vote, was those folks voting for mccain. that means that the obama vote simply did not turn out. this was the perfect storm. a very well-wrought republican campaign at the top of the ticket, a weak democratic candidate, and no turnout. >> is this a referendum on obama? >> they say no -- the white house says, "good jockey, bad horses," the horses being jon corzine and creigh deeds. it is not just questions of the
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economy, but state and local races. obamas popularity happens to be the same as it was before the races. they did not have particularly strong candidates. both of them went in very weak and never gained much traction. >> are democrats in trouble, evan? >> since charles is not here, let me try to play his role. he does have a point this idea that the country has moved left- of-center is regarded by these results. independents -- the republican party is still not doing that well, but independents move from democrats to republicans, which suggests that when the economy is bad, they do not think of government as a solution, but some other solution. it is a right-of-center outcome. >> people are pretty angry, though. a 60% of the people in new
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jersey at almost 7% in virginia -- 70% in virginia -- >> they elected a, a year ago for change we can believe in. the expected that the town in washington would be better. -- tone in washington would be better. has that happened? you cannot blame republicans or whoever you want, but it does not happen. getting things done, has that happened? if the democrats don't get the health care bill done, it is a sure sign for 2010. >> but we cannot talk about tuesday without talking about the 23rd district in new york. a district that has been a republican since the civil war and his democratic now. you cannot -- you can say it was republican fratricide. republicans did themselves in fighting over ideologies.
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nevertheless, that precinct when the democratic, and it is something that the democrats can point to. >> there was one in northern california -- >> palin at tauscher's sea. let's get that straight. >> but it is all about the economy, folks. there are signs that the economy is recovering, but the jobless rate continues to rise. we learned that it is now over 10% -- 10.2%. ford motor your company -- ford motor co. did not take bailout money and it made a profit. it did not ease the minds of voters. >> the economy is still the top issue for voters. as james carville said, it's the economy, stupid. the economy has gone well on wall street. main street is where it is missing. that is where people are in pain. >> in 1993, republicans won the
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virginia and new jersey, after that, republicans were elected to the house of representatives. if the jobless numbers do not improve, could we see the same results in 2010? >> probably not, because unlike 1994, incumbents have learned something. they will not be caught unawares this time. they will raise money and you will not have the retirement reagan had then. but let's get one thing straight, ins are in trouble for 2010. republicans are emboldened by what happened on tuesday. in reality, does it mean anything? it means something psychologically republicans get a lift in terms of a fund- raising, a lift in terms of candidate recruitment. all of a sudden, somebody decides to run because it looks better. the party morale is lifted. >> i don't think it will have a big swing one way or the other
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because people sense the basic truth, which is that government has no tricks left in its bag on the economy. the left will not spend more money because the deficit is historic. polls show that people don't want the deficit to go. on the other hand, it will not raise taxes either. -- excuse me, they are not going to cut taxes. government is paralyzed and is as if they are just going to live with this. >> if you are a democrat from a traditionally republican district -- >> it gives you a lot of applause. go to the place of your faith every day and -- lot of pause. go to the place of your faith everyday and pray that the unemployment rate goes down. the republicans, as noted in the "wall street journal" paul, are at an all-time low in the approval rating. there was a fabulous campaign
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run in virginia that was a typical, and in new jersey, jon corzine was monumentally unpopular. but you have to have an alternative. people will go to that alternative even if they don't like the alternative. if the unemployment rate is still 10.2% a year from now, the democrats will have a big problem. >> but the unemployment rates lag. there is a good prospect that the unemployment rate will be there and there is nothing the government can do about it. >> what can be done to reenergize the young voters who were there for obama in 2008? >> i suspect one of the things that will energize them will be the opponents. the person who will run against obama -- that was the case to -- a year ago as well. they still have to pick somebody who will be formidable. but the democrats face, as evan
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said, are real serious problem. they don't have wiggle room now. you cannot talk about another stimulus package. they just don't have the room for that. they are up against it. >> you are talking about 2012 with the presidential candidate. that is the problem with 2010. >> let me dissent. democrats have to do the following -- show people they made a difference, can address some problems -- health care -- and then turned all their attention and energy and effort to the economy. the deficit is not a voting issue. i have heard about it for 50 years. people are going to vote for jobs, and democrats better be seen as caring and doing and accomplishing something on increasing jobs. >> we still ought to talk about health care. >> this bill is the greatest threat to freedom i've seen in the 19 years i've been in washington. taking away your freedom to
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choose your doctor. >> anything you need to know about the difference between -- the democratic bill and the republican bill is that the republicans do not end health insurance companies discriminating against people with pre-existing conditions. >> as we are preparing this broadcast, we are expecting a vote on health care sometime this weekend. >> it will not bring it up if they do not have a vote, but they seem to think they will get a vote. one of the problems is a stupid abortion provision. if they have to, they will get rid of it. they have to keep the liberals on and appease the blue dogs. it is a moving-pieces proposition. they are not there yet. >> on the abortion bill, the president is on record that it will be the status quo, hyde amendment language, and it is not right now. that is leading to 30 democrats
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in the house saying we will not be with you until it is changed back. other moving parts as well. i think they will get the votes. it will not bring it up for a boat and others. -- they will not bring it up for a vote and lose. that would be a fatal blow. what about the senate, where senate majority leader harry reid announced this week that they may not vote until january? i think that would be devastatingly damaging to the prospects of passage -- >> there want a second until -- >> the majority leader of the democrats has had -- first of all, he is the one that announce that we would have a bill, the one that announced he would have a public option, not the one who is backing up, and did these things without consultation. he is doing it with his own reelection prospects in mind. you could not have a weaker
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majority leader. >> they have to have a bill after get it before christmas -- and a half to get it before christmas, but we are seeing berthing pains. they cannot afford to lose this. >> in defense of harry reid, there was a decision made in january that the -- after senator joe lieberman spoke of the republican convention and campaign for the republican nominee and criticize the democratic nominee for president, and came back to the democratic caucus, that instead of being stripped of his chairmanship, the white house insisted and senator harry reid went along with it to give him that seniority but it is tough to have a fear when you have that kind of an outside. >> what you think when you hear john boehner say that this bill is the greatest threat to freedom i have seen in the 19 years in washington? how do you respond to that? >> that is why republicans have
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the low support they have in the country. polls show that the republican party's ranking is as low as it has been in decades. john boehner is the reason. that kind of statement is just so silly -- it speaks to the yahoos but it does not speak to the general electorate. >> i do not see any republicans supporting the bill could be aarp and ama is there. >> we have come a full year since he was elected and there is no evidence of president obama's willingness to step up to a really hard when and do something where he is sticking his neck that -- >> what would you have him do? >> on health care, he has got to get harry reid up there and people and say -- do an lbj and twist their arms. that is not to be is -- not who he is -- >> the toughness that is required -- the doubt about
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president obama has been his spine. what is it made of? is it made of steel or something more porous? there is a real test at this point aarp and ama to report certain arguments made by critics. the aarp, represent older americans -- medicare is going to be sabotage by this bill -- no, says the aarp. the problem the republicans is that they do not have anything to say. >> obama needs to be clear about what he wants, not just what he wants harry reid once. -- not just what it once every -- what he wants. he asked about the same conversation with senate democrats to -- or waffling. he asked to have the same -- but he has to have the same
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conversation with senate democrats who are waffling. >> there is language that is acceptable to blue dogs and republicans but not for hispanic democrats. you have to bring those people in and said, but if you want things for me in the future, you have to help me on this stock was the democrats have not sold some of the stuff in the bill very well. the democratic -- the tort reform provision in the culpr -- in the bill. >> how much of it is that he does not want to come in? >> great question. i don't know the answer. but we have watched his numbers on "get things done, strong and forceful leader" declined precipitously since april. >> that is not just health care.
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on afghanistan, no one wants to accuse him of dithering, but at some point he has got to make a call. how many times are you going to keep sending them back to the drawing board? he is the commander-in-chief, president and he has that is what he wants. -- has got to say what he wants. >> that is such a hard problem. but you are right, at the end of the day he has to decide. >> clinton got will continue a plea. -- got rolled continually. i think obama should have vetoed some bill by now that had to much pork in it -- some of the defense bill where there was stuff in there that they did not want. >> he better be careful.
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>> it is not easy being charles. >> see you next week. for a transcript of this broadcast, log on to
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PBS November 6, 2009 8:00pm-8:30pm EST

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